We know there are key POI in other murders including Delphi residing in Wabash and possibly Logansport at that time. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. Faked to make it look like he could not possibly have committed the crime because he was more devastated than anyone else. So, there is still marks that are left on that unspent ammunition that can be inspected by an expert and you can say this cartridge was once inside that weapon.. - The murders of Abby Williams and Libby German have remained unsolved since that fateful day in February 2017, when the girls went for a walk on the historic trails of Delphi and never came. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. They say a forensic analysis found the round had been cycled through a gun belonging to Allen. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. He could have even confessed to me, but I am still not under obligation to tell the cops. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. But answer me this. 1 minute ago. Long, 22 pages. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. On July 23, 2019, Etter was wanted for the kidnapping and rape of a 26-year-old woman in Tippecanoe County. I do not know why RRB is? He has not been charged in the Delphi case. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. LE has already looked into him quite a bit, and I assume hes cleared. Education history: Primary and junior high unknown. Are you serious? How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. At least two prior marriages. I dont know if Mr. X is part of the groups promoting the trail system, but for some reason, I doubt it. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? Then there is always the question of his occupation. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. In other words, LE are convinced that BG filmed or videotaped his crime. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. Join Nancy Grace for her new online video series designed to help you protect what you love most your children. This goes on all the time, however. I believe you could be spot on with your main POI. It was dark. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files. The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. These seem to have been packing plant workers in the Delphi area who get transferred over to the Evansdale area for periods of time to work on sister plants over there. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. Hi there, have just come across your work and am interested in joining the private group. No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. The doc is his property. He does not work there at the moment. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. The 2017 murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, shook the country. Sources For the latest true crime and justice news,subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. So every time a kid gets killed in a sexual murder, LE goes looking for photos and videos of the murder because obviously everyone who kills a kid takes pics of it and videotapes it. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. A pair of binoculars. How often to killers, of children or otherwise, take fucking photos and videos of their goddamned crimes? There is endless silly speculation in the comments about BG I think BG was a teenagerWhat if BG escaped on a hand glider?What if BG is dead?What if BG escaped to a deserted island where he now renamed himself Lord Jim and is now king of the savages?What if BG is really a woman in drag?What if BG is Mafia hitman?Bla bla bla bla.. LE blew off their concerns and called off the search, citing safety concerns for the searchers but seemingly had little of the same concerns for the missing teens who could have been severely hurt and unable to help themselves, just waiting for someone in LE to find them that night. Video of the incident was released by police. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Its an understandable reaction, but theyre not pleasant to be around. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Empiricism is a thing. If this roommate is correct, it looks like Mr. X worked in 2011-2012 at as packing plant in the Delphi area, and he was moved to near Evansdale, Iowa for a period during these two years to work on a sister plant near Evansdale. Frequently hunted deer on Rons land. Stop. Why on Earth would anyone hang around near their vehicle for a full day just because they lost their keys? No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. Interesting. In these cases, we have 4-5 separate sources, usually vaguely referred to as inside sources, testifying to the truth of something. To the Facilitator (change agent), double-speak is a key tool. The Murder Sheet podcast published the affidavit filed by a FBI agent asking for a warrant to search. Underwear, possible two pairs, was found in the river. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. FSG is at the trails every day. Scroll down and read https://truthtellersweb.wordpress.com/2017/07/22/photo-page/. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. I dont know if they were part of the search parties. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. Suspect in Delphi Snapchat Murders [Wanted Poster] By: Christine Colby Related To: Abductions. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. A book has been published accusing this man of this crime. At 13 and 14 the cycles are messed up bad. MYSTERY continues to surround the so-called Delphi Snapchat murders, nearly five years on from the killings of two teenage girls in Indiana who were found dead near a train track back in 2017. Neither one can possibly be BG. We dont do that on here and never have. We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. The gun is a rare collectors item, possibly a .40mm. According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. So Id just as soon stop looking at him as a suspect. We now know a lot of things about the main suspect, including the name, age, height, weight, marital status, possible offspring, address, names of wife and children, and history of his life. [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Missing Nevada Woman Stopped Contact with Family, Police Seek Tips, Unknown Man Seen Using Missing Georgia Mans Credit Card in Baton Rouge, WATCH LIVE: Murdaugh Family Murders Day 25: Closing Arguments, subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. This is a community where we can speak openly about the murders of Libby and Abby while searching for justice. Theres just journalists. They told us that Kegan Kline was not involved. Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. Get real. Guilty until proven innocent! Were you a member of the private group? Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. LE actually believes BG was 49-50 years old when he committed the crime. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Robert, have you heard that Mr X had a deer blind on the Mears property? Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? How do they know he sent audio/video to one of the girls phones? Im thinking theres around 10 more people, in addition to the four youve mentioned, that are involved with a retaliation/revenge motive. Let us know if you want to join the private sleuthing site where we can talk about this stuff in much greater detail than we do out here. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. You might consider joining us in our private group. Who says those videos are from him? We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana . Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. If anyone else is involved they know who it is. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. I tune in to their broadcasts and most of it is these narcissists collecting narcissistic supply, which is being doled out by their worshipful audience. Something to think about. I seem like the nicest guy youve met. Hopefully justice will be served. His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Thanks. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. What is this guy, another Zodiac? What did Ron Logan have to say about the BG photo? Its burgundy. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. Easy, they were lying! I like some of these guys. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. If the DA does not think he has enough evidence in a homicide case to win in court, they wont take it to trial. The case for Mr. X is as solid as ever. An amateurs look into what profiling techniques could tell us about the murderer of Abigail Williams and Liberty German.Not looking to monetise this dreadful. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. . If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. Have for a long time. Correct. Mr. X was a senior in high school at the time. Delphi Investigators Are 'Actively Pursuing' Accused Predator James Chadwell, Libby German's Grandfather Says Reward in Killings of Delphi Teens Libby German and Abby Williams Rises to $325K. Thats very embarrassing. Mike Patty: Just stop, ok? Cops have told us more than they told any of those guardians. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Double jeopardy? Thats probably your answer. A vote on funding the Crisis Response Center, contracted with Oaklawn, is expected on March 14. Particularly this statement. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Missing for 2 years at the age of 5 and reported 2 years later out of Manchester, NH. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. Its more secure. (Mugshot source: Indiana State Police) Another reason he stayed is we believe that he enjoyed the drama. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. I also have to disagree with you about your criticism of the police for calling off the search at 3 AM. Delphi, Indiana from at least 1984-2021. The catfish had been catfishing those girls for four months. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Stay tuned. Dont listen to those idiots on Reddit! Archived post. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. I still have the pic. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? He has dealt with his grief with silence and hiding himself away. And Mr. X or BG is the one who used that catfish to bring Libby in. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. I guess he cant make up his mind. I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the show's founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesday's "Crime Stories" to discuss the case. Email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Why would they deliberately contradict their own beliefs? Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Answers to questions about my credibility. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. But no, that was not the case. TX TX - Colorado Co, WhtFem 27-43, UP4564, pink chiffon blouse, gray flannel pants, sandal, Jan'76. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. Welcome to the site! FORT WAYNE, Ind. I see T. Neighboring state. Sectionals kicked off on Tuesday night for Indiana high school boys basketball teams! Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? Could be to cover their own asses. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Hmm . Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. However, there was one little problem. Please email if you do not want to reply here. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. If you have heard about this case and wish to discuss it, feel free. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. Indiana State. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. He has connections with current LE officers. A girls hand wrapped around a knife which was plunged into a log that she was resting her head on. And he never meets anyone for any reason. 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