For pilots with health problems that aren't debilitating but possibly disqualifying, 'fessing up on the application for a third class medical certificate can be a busted-if-you-do, busted-if-you-don't proposition. Would I report this or any depression on the 8500-8? It says "last three years" so there's a one year overlap for us older guys applying for a third class. Find another AME. Your AME will review your MedXPress application in detail and conduct a physical exam. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. what tests you need, when you need to take these tests, etc) to satisfy the FAA that youre good to go. FAA sets up high-level alerts for missed airline inspections, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The information they request is typically a collection of recent medical records that address the concerns they identified in your application. Pilots most likely have wanted too fly since they were kids. Ultimately, a FAA medical denial for ADHD is almost never the end of the road for an airman. Died of a massive heart attack. Beyond criminal penalties and keeping your pilots license, there are many other reasons to be forthright with your FAA Aviation Medical Examiner (AME), but for now just as a thought experiment consider that you choose to falsify your medical certificate application. I got my license back about 10 years ago. FAA gets told one version of the story. I also feel that anyone flying not-for-hire who can truthfully answer no to all the medical questions should be allowed to submit that form directly to the FAA and maintain his medical without needing to see his AME. They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. Actually, in some years there are 0 attributed to sudden incapacitation, such as heart attack or stroke. Not all applicants with OSA are required to have that test. This is why sometimes it becomes necessary to avoid telling the attending physician more than is necessary least the physician spin the whole condition in different light by making a mountain out of a mole hill, thereby destroying the flying career of the pilot for something that even the physician himself or herself is not sure about. I just left the Marine Corps and want nothing more than to begin my flight training, but I still cant help but wonder about the outcome, especially after all I have read on this thread. This is very disturbing to say the least, why bother imposing rules, laws or the like if there is no punishment implemented??? Why is such a standard not imposed on motorcycle or car owners ? It is so easy for those not flying professionally to prescribe stricter rules for those that do. I would have assumed since this person had been flying for awhile, and flying solo that they would have imposed sanctions such as the ones discussed above. The FAA has panels of civilian medical experts for each speciality who meet regularly to review the FAA medical regulations and recommend changes based on new research. If they have any concerns about your eligibility to hold a medical certificate, AMEs can also deny your application or defer your certification to the FAA for further review. This is to screen for diabetes and kidney disease. There are too many who are afraid of liability. We train for emergencies and stalls etc. Consider the following tabulations on the number of deaths per year in various activities: Motorcycle deaths 4500 But sharing them with the FAA is detrimental to your health. Make a copy of the original and keep that in a safe place. Now then, back to your question do pilots lie about medical conditions to their AME naaaaaaah! So Rex you never spun around and got dizzy as a child? Its just not opening an unnecessary can of worms. Therefore I go to a chiropractor every chance I get. What you dont want to do is lie. I take my family on flights in my aircraft and there is no way I am going to put them at risk. lie if you want, hell find out. I know of several pilots who have useful vision in only one eye or have amblyopia that makes it impossible for them to pass the eye exam. Certification of employees to preform tasks, medical and eye examinations are normal in the Aerospace industry. What does NTSB say? before an incident so we know how to correct. You have to be careful what you ask for. Perfect safety is impossible, and an excessive attempt to achieve it will conflict with freedom. I was better off lying. Heres more information on the FAAs battery of neuropsychological testing: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/dec_cons/disease_prot/adhd/. Yeah thought so. If you have a condition which COULD result in a denial then get it checked out because you have a potential medical condition that could be a problem with you living. Parasailing. This is done by directly contacting you the pilot. So why disclose it here on an open forum? Commercial pilots, or military pilots or leisure pilots may have lied during their lifetimes, but it is unfair to only single out the pilots. If you have vision with only one eye, you can get a Statement of Demonstrated Ability (SODA) by taking a Medical Flight Test. The 8500-8 of necessity must be brief and it is very difficult to get authorization to change it. My new AME, (old one finally retired,) is a pilot, as is his wife, the office manager and head nurse. Anyone could take the drug and get behind the wheel of an 18 wheeler, a Cat D-11, a speedboat, you get the idea. I was shocked I never thought a medical would ever be an issue for me. One DUI is not disqualifying. No mercy from the FAA and I was not even allowed to go to a hearing I just got the notice of revocation one day and that was it. maybe for some people want or need to lie, I jus cant do that..ur only foolin urself..I wud feel better knowin Im ok,,by bein checked..by doc,least bp anyway..if I dont feel good to drive then I wouldnt feel good to fly either..i know first hand,retired truck driver,been there done that,also their silent killers.pays to be checked by ur own doc..have idea where u stand medically.. get off fried foods n dont smoke is a BIG HELP..when I dont lie I feel better bout it too. I suffer from multiple personality disorder, but all of the voices affirm they are qualified pilots. On the other hand, when I started flying and had to take a 3rd class medical, the AMI was a personal friend and knew of my hearing problems, therefore suggested we do the hearing test with an audiometer in the evening when there was less noise and confusion in the office. Thank you for the advice and expertise Sir, you just saved me a $50.00 discussion appointment with my AME. So please just be honest you they are gonna find out about one day or another just like the case out in California back in 2005 for pilots lying about question 18y Medical disability benefits and many of them were in legal trouble. It is also very much a question of freedom. It may be that some of you folks are not involved as subcontractors to the Airframe manufacturers. That resulted in the rejection of my 2010 medical! Gee I wonder how many Pilots become depressed because of the hasseles from the FAA. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. They are actually almost the same as for Third Class. I have been screwing around with Oklahoma City since May 2010 and I still really have not made a very big dent towards my certification. Thats if they even decide to give you a medical waiver. Age is only a number. George ED King says: I tried talking to him about the serious consequences of lying, and every time he goes flying he is putting everyone at risk, but he didnt care. I lost my younger years flying and now the hoopes I have to jump through is unbeleveable.I really love flying but the government can take the privelage away its not right. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.) You get caught lying on a medical, they'll do a lot more than just bust your balls. An exam for a third class medical certificate with a student pilot certificate can cost between $75 and $150. With a second class medical, itll be 12 calendar months, and if you start with the third class medical, itll be for 24 calendar months. https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/06180933/doctorlargesquare1.jpg, https://airfactsjournal-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/06142440/Air-Facts-Logo340.jpg, COPYRIGHT 2011-2023, SPORTSMAN'S MARKET, INC. All Rights Reserved. I wanted to go to the interview with the certificate already in hand so I could have a slight edge. It can also ensure you keep flying for years to come. We only use the Hes very consciencious, and does not tolerate much in the way of obfuscation, at which he appears to be very good at spotting. The entire aeromedical FAA staff can go kill themselves for all I care. If after that the FAA denied your application, you can seek reconsideration of that denial by making a few substantive arguments. They came within 2 weeks of revoking my medical. This exemption is exactly what I need to keep flying, and I am sure there are many others like me. Governmental overkill? If they can just rid the world of these bothersom pilots then their job will be much easier. Anonomous, My first flightdoctor told me he was very happy about having pilots as clients. I am unconscious every night. And, actually, the FAA is making Special Issuance less of a problem for certain diseases. Im a 24 year old healthy male non smoker athlete with 20/20 vision and I cant fly because I took adderal as needed for help concentrating in school. you say he flys solo whats it to you, Gee I fell out of bead a week ago and wacked my head I wonder if I should tell the FAA. Im 64 and working on my PP license. Water under the bridge now 19 years later. Brian is absolutely right. There, see you did lie on your medical didnt you. Im not a Senior AME, Ive only been one for a year. I dont feel it would be correct to try to hide a condition from these people. Flying is no more dangerous than driving when properly trained. How about the person that might have some minor anxiety issues? Now Ive been unemployed for a couple months and who knows how long before some beaurucrat decides to actually look at my file snd say ok. Ive followed all the steps they dictated,all my tests and results are right on but because they wont simply look and see that Ive followed thrie rules and was honest,Im looking at becoming a burden to the system and living on public assistance until I get my medical back. I lost my 2012 medical cert in Istanbul, and make the mistake of sending the FAA form requesting a duplicate. In fact he asked me where did I see that I could make that attachment. then are able to re-apply. Ill continue to go by the book until such time as the rules change, or I wish to no longer fly. No, most pilots have few issues. And two complete submittals of blood tests. With a small investment of time and energy, in the beginning, it is possible to keep flying with most medical conditions as long as they are well controlled. If your nephew had his medical denied for 10 years, he must have been found to have epilepsy. Comparatively, what I take is barely more than a prescription grade Imodium AD. All FAA medical certificate applicants are required to acknowledge that warning before submitting their application in MedXPress. Thanks,for the new online magazine. One change I would like in the current procedure for the special issuance is to have my AME rather than those in Oklohoma City decide if I am healthy enough to fly. Contact an aviation medical examiner (AME) early if you have doubts or questions. Some of us just have problems in our lives that are difficult to deal with. Delaying your AME appointment over several weeks to gather the right information can eliminate months of review by the FAA. You can mail or fax your request for aircraft records or Request Copies of Aircraft Records online. I am working on my private pilot license and I was honest and admitted to an episode of seasonal depression treated with medication (which I no longer require or take). Few people have memory of everything diagnosed as a child, how many appoinments one has been to in the last 3 years, or even knowledge of what the doctor has put in your medical record. So, I can only assume that the FAA will see it so there is no question about having to report it myself. It has caused unnecessary pain and inhibits its mission to promote aviation. Mr. Diabetes can still legally fly as a sport pilot. Great guy, but he needlessly put a lot of peoples lives in danger. So, the medical certification process has greatly reduced my joy. Its only a matter of time. Once set up by politicians, these agencies rule by fiat, for which there is no recourse. 99.999999% of pilots can and should self-certify for 3rd class flying. Yes, all my discussion was only applicable to private, recreational pilots, not airline or large freight liner pilots. If you cant pass the physical you need to find another way to fly. If you decide to undergo a physical despite questionable health, first gather all medical documents, such as a letter from your family doctor stating that a condition has been treated and resolved, and present them to the AME. I dont care who you are if you tell me that you have never been diagnosed with anything then you are the liar. I know this Pilot who has type 1 Diabetes which requires insulin injections daily, drinks alcohol every night, takes an antidepressant, and every afternoon gets the shakes. Neither IFA, nor Paul Engstrom assume any responsibility or liability for events that occur due to actions you or others on your behalf take based on the information given in this article. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Many of the requirements for special issuance for example are redundant and simply bureaucratic paper chases. Also why does your local AME put something on your report and call it insignificant but 6 months later the FAA makes a federal case of it and wants more tests for this insignificant thing. Why is it ok for a diabetic to drive without checking glucose but not a pilot? It has little to do with Health. The Federal Aviation Regulations and U.S. law require that FAA Form 8500-8, the application for a medical certificate, be filled out completely and truthfully'or else. I agree the sport licensse should include at least up to a 152, super cub and all two seat trainers. There shouldnt be different standards. In this age of fax machines, email, twitter, facebook, linked in, etc, it is obvious that the FAA is stuck in the past. I have been flying for 39 years and professionally since I was 18. At a minimum, the liar can lose flight provileges for good. Needless to say, I dont have my class 3 medical now. Again, take a look at the AME Guide on the FAA website. For airmen, this, like so many other aspects of aviation, is a judgment call'but one that also gets tangled up in personal ethics. Im depressed, so their answer is to tell me I cant do anything to fix my problem whilst simultaneously denying me something that significantly helps with my depression: Flying? In this application, you must disclose any information about a condition that has the potential to affect your eligibility to fly. It is probably one of the most important benefits they offer their members. He knew it. Pilot Health - Should I not disclose this on my FAA medical? The FAA has created an atmosphere that not only encourages problems to go unchecked and unreported, but actually makes some of those problems worse by discouraging pilots from addressing them, instead allowing them to fester. But, I dont think my level of forthcoming on the application was typical. It's usually the "have you ever" questions. Read from the question directly above the one you linked to: Long-standing FAA regulation, 61.53, prohibits all pilotsthose who are required to hold airman medical certificates and those who are notfrom exercising privileges during periods of medical deficiency. What are the chances you will get caught? Are you serious? 6 months and 2 weeks earlier I had one done for a Peace Corps application and sent that in, which would have been good for 2 years. What Dickie did was tell on someone for lying. Holy hell! I do recommend that you do ask your AME any questions regarding your medications and or your medical history and assist in the gathering of medical records relating to what condition you may have and also the same for your arrest/and or correctional history to explain why on the medical form in the explanations page. It explains a lot of stuff that seems ridiculous, like have you ever been unconscious. It was good news. The only way around this is to pay for all of your medical care yourself and not use insurance. If the AME says that you do need to provide X, Y, and Z, get all of that together before going in to see the AME. Any deviation from general standards of health found would/should require a more intense examination/(s.). good for 2 years. Your family and friends consider you more important than any flying you may do. His response was that the FAA wanted to ascertain that I was aware of the disability and take necessary actions to overcome it, In this case to use other senses to monitor the aircrafts actions, i.e. Ruin a life a move on. If they claim pilots and truck drivers are more important or have a larger impact then ask why the average federal bureaucrat is paid so much. And on the other hand we have people like the pilot mentioned in J. Mac McClellans article Too Many Risks in the May 2012 issue of Sport Aviation who out right lied about his substance use and abuse. Every single pilot lied on their medical form. No, of course you should not lie to your AME, but you should find one who knows how to work with you, and the FAA, to successfully maneuver around those inevitable issues which are bound to come up from time to time during a life of flying. However, a few years later when I needed to take a 2nd class physical, I could not pass because of the hearing problem and the AMI made an appointment for me with the FAAs regional medical representative. I have all kinds of things happen to me and I can not possibly put them all down or even remember them. see you in the cockpit!! Next, instead of the Class 3 Medical Certificate being good for 5 years until age 40 when it decreases to 2 years, make the decrease more gradual. Ask your AME to call Oklahoma City and ask to speak with a physician about your case. How about an 83 year-old on medication for type II diabetes, depression, and senility taking medication for all 3 problems? 13. They are busy guarding the barn only after the horse is back inside. It was OK to fly without government harassment. The answer is that the population would not tolerate it. I agreemost pilots at least fail to mention things. Unfortunate as those events are, they do NOT cause accidents. I have no problem with the current system. so.does everyone repeat their whole life medical history.or just the recent stuff since the last medical exam? Took the FAA medical (stand on this leg, stand on that leg can you see anything out of this eye, can you see anything out of that eye). Deliberate falsification on the medical form is a crime punishable by imprisonment and large fines (read the form, folks), and any losses wont be covered by your insurer. Have you ever been dizzy etc. Due to the self-reporting nature, the chances of getting caught lying on an FAA medical aren't very high. Federal Air Surgeon Jon Jordan is very aware of the FAA fear factor among pilots who worry about the potential consequences of filling out the form truthfully. have you ever once in your life had and on the other hand they are so vague. Im not dumb enough to eat a big meal then jump right into a plane for the flight back unless it is one with a toilet and someone else is flying! Duuuuuuuuuh do fat babies fart? ASMEL, CFII, AME, Hi, Im currently a student pilot I finally saved up the money to go after my dream. The Third Class is an absolute joke. If you do have heart disease, you would have to continue to see your Cardiologist as well as your AME to maintain your medical. The FAA medical process makes it nearly impossible to comply with completely. Ive no choice but be truthfull,but I am sure Ive flown with other pilots who are afraid of admitting or just dont admit that they are not fit to fly themselves or their passengers safely.Does that ache youve been noticing or even worse ignoring mean something? File closed. Im sorry to hear that. Thats just BS. WOW they had a conniption, and I lost my ticket for several months while they dithered. Direct Primary Care Physician for Pilots? And yet still I do not feel I can speak freely to them. '[T]here is probably some justification for that,' he acknowledged in a 1998 interview, noting that the FAA is 'extremely conservative' when it comes to medical matters. An applicant who knowingly misrepresents the facts and gets caught can lose his or her pilot license forever and face a fine of up to $250,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both. I can empathize with that Louis. Its a losing game. That would include most of the trainers (Cessna 120, 140, 150, 152, Piper Tomahawk, etc.) What does this mean? But here is where the absurdity of this over zealous pursuit of perfect safety is to be seen: Id rather be flying but I dont require the FAAs approval for my activities. Im not sure what I think about all this but Ill tell you my story. thank you, that will be $110. Note, denial is different from deferral. Im no danger to anyone because I dont particularly like myself. Such a persons private physician(s) might not think so, but those physician(s) have no say in the matter. Then we really would have a pilot shortage, now wouldnt we. They rely on that trust and the deterrence provided by the severe penalties at their disposal to preserve the integrity of the medical certification process. The issue is what we feel is important, because the government wants a complete history and providing it isnt possible and pilots are going to make their own judgements about whats truly important to fully disclose. I have informed my regular doctor to please clear with me anything they might write in my record, as it could affect my FAA medical. AMCD will consider much more than the information you submitted in MedXPress and your AMEs exam findings. They will also review how your current application compares to the ones you have submitted in the past and your driving record. What will actually happen if you are caught lying? To stay current, I have been renting/flying 152s and 172s with an instructor, but that is very expensive too (the inclusion of the instructor, that is). Irs Data Book, 2020. chances of getting caught lying on faa medical one of the medications used treat! Im old, crazy and hard of hearing bit like most experienced pilots I suppose. One way is by lying. I am not sure whether the doctors are always correct or what specifically they are looking for to justify one pilot is medically fit while another is unfit. Case in point: A student pilot I was familiar with crashed his aircraft into the runway and killed himself after being arrested for drunk-driving the previous night. Counseling, HTN, whatever. But a private pilot should be able to fly his Cessna on a weekend without the 3rd class physical. We have a very good AME in our area. RE: Wiley Post. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. The AME can comment on the problem stating that it no longer exists and you are not on medication in the comments section on the 8500-8 and submit it along with the note from your counsellor to the FAA and go ahead and issue your Medical Certificate. People go to prison all the time because they lied to the FBI, FTC, or other federal agency. But the standards are not different. We should not be subjected to this inquisitional questionnaire in the first place. However you have never been treated or taken medication so probably if you disclose it the FAA would require some sort of doctors evaluation which says you are OK and that will be the end of it. It does happen. The hypocrisy at the FAA hurts general aviation in lots of ways. Back when I was an F/O we flew in airplanes with single head radios. Didn't even think about it. I have been asymptomatic for all of those years and I am on no medication. And maintaining a Commercial Driver License with some illnesses is more difficult than maintaining and FAA Medical Certificate. Whether or not your AME issues your medical certificate, the FAAs Aeromedical Certification Division (AMCD) will review your application. How about providing you SSAN when the FAA does not need it? My name is not Gustavo either. I disclosed everything on my original medical as a student pilot. I mean no offense, but other adults telling another adult whether or not to disclose something on a medical just doesn't seem right. I did not disclose my name or address when I created this account. John has been quoted or mentioned in major publications, including Chron, Flying Mag, and National Review. I am working with a private party who specializes in this sort of thing and he cant really give me definitive answers either; just educated opinion and guidance. If you have a new medical diagnosis, just received a letter from the FAA or have any concerns about your FAA medical certificate, let us help. Sometimes I think its not necessary for ATC people to have medicals. Im just grateful to have my medical and hope to keep it however long I have to have it. the third class should go away. Find one that will help you get through the maze, not simply hand your problem off to the FAA. Should I expect the FAA to understand my circumstance if theyre going to pull a pilots ticket for marital counseling? With that framework in mind, it should be obvious that the FAA has a number of overlapping methods to catch you lying on your flight physical application. The all have SODA and continue to fly. Im older now and have some typical late 40s health issues. I sure as hell would. I have to weigh in on this issue. The premise of someone getting over long-term depression is laughable. 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