One new winner* is announced every week! I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. Its light but mushy. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. February 21, 2022 in Glock. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. Upload or insert images from URL. All Rights Reserved. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. Powered by Invision Community. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. I am making sure not to ease it forward. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. JavaScript is disabled. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. can your extractor move freely? Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. How are you sending the slide forward? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Is this RSA going to $hit already? You cannot paste images directly. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? 2. Your previous content has been restored. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Any update on this? Never an issue with limp wristing so far. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. 1. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Lots of creep, but that is by design. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. It had 2056 through it. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. The problem is when the slide slams forward. Pasted as rich text. I had this with my first gen P80. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. You can post now and register later. - Bren. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. One mag in particular was the worst. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. I plan on speaking to Glock tomorrow now that I have a bit of an idea. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. JavaScript is disabled. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. What ammo? All Rights Reserved. If all else fails I'll call Glock. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. JavaScript is disabled. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. Thank you for that great info! Powered by Invision Community. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). To eliminate grip issues, have you had anyone else try to replicate the issue with a different box of ammo? before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for all the feedback everyone. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. Shoot the crap out of it. Oh its not a logical move. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Just got a new spring today. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I can swap the sli. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Did not have any problems before I had this milled. BrianEnos.com From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. One new winner* is announced every week! Just a thought. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Found the culprit. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Paste as plain text instead, This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. What Argyle said sounds about right. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? Have you tried a different firing pin spring? this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I only shoot factory ammo. Its never happened with the factory barrel. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. January 3, 2004 in Glock. Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Great info thank you. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. I will look into it. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. I totally get this. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Eject it. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. Is this normal with these mods? Any ideas on what the issue might be? Never had an issue with the factory barrel. It's great. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. JavaScript is disabled. Im a little ahead of you on this path. It won't load a round. I checked and it looks fine. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. You can post now and register later. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Could be ammo related. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. By A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. UPDATE! "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. Like polishing amounts? Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. the sig comment was really a non sequitur. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. That's been my experience. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. What do your used primers look like? This did the trick. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. I'm hoping that shooting it will solve it. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. No lube should be needed on RSA. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. Thanks for the info. Have you tried shooting it? The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Haha). For that matter, 99.99% of dirty unlubricated Glock 23's with stock parts and well worn RSA's will go into battery 99.99% of the time with all but the worst .40 cal ammo. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Clear editor. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It now passes the recoil spring test. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! Building a V2 soon. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. check the recoil spring. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Dedicated to glock tomorrow now that i can go back into battery sounds its... 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