You will feel the same 5.5-pound semi-double action trigger pull on both the Glock 19 Gen 3 and the Glock 19 Gen 4. I bought my Glock 19 gen 3 last week , I am a gun owner for the first time. I love my G30, its basically all the goodness of a G21 but shrunk down to G19 size. Therein lies some of the problems that the Gen 4 9mms had. Are you trying to act like its a qualifier in order to have an opinion? I bought a G36 early on, thinking it would be a lighter replacement for my Colt Officers .45. The connector on the Gen 4 lies inside the trigger housing and has a modified angle in order to preserve the trigger pull weight of the Gen 3. I just didnt want to rebuild the entire thing, but will sooner or later. This Product can expose you to chemicals including lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Patents Pending. I went back to my Gen 3 to make sure it wasnt something I missed. Why isnt it like my G19, a longer, full, grip with a normal basepad ? GLOCK safety, reliability, and simple operation, all at an affordable price. Or could it be the 9mm Luger round was developed in Europe where .45 ACP is a homegrown American round? I 100% disagree with this article. The gun fired everything I put in it. First of all I like guns not brands (same for cars). The comment about weighting without the magazine is spot on: the magazines for Glock 36 are unusually heavy. Hot on the heels of the announcement of the new single-stack slimline G43X and G48, both of which are skinny little 9mms, I am going to take the time to do a rewind and look at GLOCKs first attempt at the single-stack slimline game: the .45 ACP GLOCK 36. BTW, everyone in this thread seem to forget about Kahr CM45. It is possible to install a Glock 19 Generation 3 recoil spring guide rod into a Glock 19 4th Generation pistol. The first of the Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades that will not interchange we will look at is the slide. Thats why I bought the Gen 4 as my second Glock. More modern GLOCK pistols border on being aesthetically attractive, much in the same way that some actors and actresses become somehow better looking with time. Good luck, have fun shooting, and stay safe. I can respect that, but the gun we are left with is left wanting in todays concealed carry market. Also, you can't overlook the legendary Glock reliability. Ive never liked, or gotten used to, a Glock trigger. Every one of your responses reinforces my opinion. Havent shot the G36 but own a XDS and shot a buds Shield. This system is nothing new to Glock as they have used it in their sub-compact pistols for years. Moving forward from the grips you will certainly see the larger mag release button, which is now been made ambidextrous. I agree with your evaluation but I like my gun. They didnt find anything and passed me through. The XD-S is a much better .45 single-stack, and the G30 is a much, much better Glock subcompact .45 pistol. He does custom stuff so if you just tell him no more Glock Knuckle hell hook you up. Im just a civilian so I hope and pray that I will never be in a self defense situation where I need more than 1 mag.Most self defense situations Ive seen or heard about were pretty close quarters, not clear across the room(although I see a lot of that in the movies). Along with all the standard models such as the Glock 19 Gen 4, the fourth generation of Glock pistols also introduced the Glock 43. Gave it to my brother when I found I got a blood blister on my pinkie every time I fired it without a Band-Aid on my finger. Youre quite the dick. However, the ejector is only available when purchased with the entire trigger housing. That has happened more than once. Honestly. Thanks for your opinions and commentary. I know, some people absolutely have to save every dollar they can, and that's okay. GLOCK believes in responsible gun ownership. I get Glock Knuckle from both of them. I have never given a gun a one star rating in ergonomics before, but this one takes it. I worked for an armored car company for almost 7 years mostly in the LA area of California. No complaints overall. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. I carry three mags with the 36 full up and one mag is an extended +1 version with Pearce extension. One large point of contention shooters had with the Glock 19 Generation 3 was the grips being too large for smaller hands. I dont seem to have any of the problems the author mentioned, but I know some other folks do, so I count myself lucky. The next visible difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4 is its slide. In order to find out when your particular gun was made, you had to do a search on its serial number. I havent found a case or anyone that can make a Glock fire without pulling the trigger. However, the differences might be enough to sway you one way or another. I swapped my Gen 3 and 4 model 27's slide with no issue. The .45 has a large following in the US and an updated gun with the improved Gen5 trigger would sell extremely well. Cominolli safety for glocks is a alternative, it puts a external safety on. With a healthy load, its LOUD. In early 2018, Umarex received the official Glock licensing to produce replica Glocks in 4.5mm bb and 6mm airsoft. He said if I couldnt get it done with 7 rds I probably couldnt do it at all. Umarex Glock 17 Gen3 vs Gen4. Ive owned numerous G 9mms over the years and they are all gone. I made a video from the side view and there is hardly any recoil shooting magtech hard baller range ammo. Not good when milliseconds count. It might also have to do with that non-snappy, push-punch of the .45. Now, don't interpret this as if you will be grabbing onto sandpaper. Looking forward to get one of the new Gen 5s and adding to the post and learning more. Once you get used to the trigger it makes the Shield look like sh**. This serves to center the trigger bar on the firing pin safety, which is one of the three parts of the Glock safe-fire action. Granted, some people don't like that as much; some pistols feel almost like the gun could double as a low-grade rasp and that's annoying. Welcome to Glock Knuckle. Both pistols use 9mm ammo and have the same standard magazine capacity of 15 rounds. However, when you factor in the perks that may apply to your situation just how much is that difference in price really? Someone else mentioned the Colt Officers ACP. Have fun with it. However, if you notice a slightly rougher or heavier trigger pull on your new Gen 4 Glock this is one place to look at making an upgrade. I bought my Gen 4 before Glock offered the beaver tail. This means that not only with the Gen 4 not only shoot easier, but it will last longer too. I believe the correct Gen 3 trigger housing pin is sku# 427 Makes for an effective CCW that you can trust. With a magazine inserted, Glock 36 and Shield 45 clock in within 5 grams of each other. The frame designed for the Glock 19 4th Generation handgun is smaller than that of the Glock 19 Gen 3. Accuracy * * Nice ammo count! difference at? The Blue label program is a great service from Glock. I am thinking a glock 17 long slide, concealed in a long coat might be the ticket for winter carry. The Gen 4 has a new texture on its grip which many find just right for either bare-hands or gloves. It was an entirely reasonable comment. Its the mid sized gun and a great place to start. It was accurate, for one shot but followups were slow and sometimes required readjusting my grip. Reply Quote. Adjustable Pre-Travel and Overtravel Set Screws. I shoot a whole lot, obviously. I am looking at a Glock for in car protection and periodic concealed carry. The G36s long, relatively narrow grip fits my hands perfectly and gives me feedback as to the guns orientation even before bringing it up into site height. The Gen 3 pistols have been in production for 20 years. Luckily, the Gen 3 Glock is still in production and is still a fan favorite. With +P ammo, it gives std. Oh, by the way, do make sure the weapon is cleared before doing this, you do not want to become a statistic. Shortest Pre-travel is achievable WITHOUT losing any OEM safety features. You have entered an incorrect email address! I just bought my 1st Glock 26 Gen 3. Their products have evolved through modifications that let their handguns be recognized by generation. I had a G21 and it sucked. The gun packs a full 10 rounds in the standard magazine and 12 rounds in an extended magazine. Glock does not sell them to the consumer market; they are only sold to police departments and federal agencies. The extensions defeat the purpose of the gun by making the grip longer and far harder to conceal. The first thing I thought getting it out of the box was, WHAT is this dumb mag basepad for ? Its a little lighter and a little smoother. Feels good in the hand and fun to shoot. And since Glock stopped at Gen3, the future is limited, too, but Ill still have a place for it in the safe. They all feel square to me and they all resemble each other in their boxy, unattractive appearance. Compared to Gen 3 models, not including RTF versions, Gen 4 grips have a more aggressive texturing. Gaston Glock, who had no prior experience in gun manufacturing, was indeed an innovator. Ha ha. Cheers! The Gen 4, on the other hand, has several sizes of backstrap that can be easily swapped in for a better fit. Glock also created modular backstraps for the Gen 4 pistols, which were cleverly named the "Glock Modular Backstraps.". I dont have a ton of dollars to buy what I really want so I buy what I need. They digest most ammo well, shoot easily enough and more than accurately enough for government work, and so on. Barrel Length: 3.75 The gun wastes a large amount of space. Shoot both if possible. He resides in the great Inland Northwest, with his wife and child. Buy a wolf gunsprings Glock competition trigger pack ($10) and install 2 of the 3 springs. Expand your knowledge and make educated decisions to Start browsing our selection of, AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Complete Upper Receiver Assemblies, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Upper Receiver Parts, Shop All AR-10 / LR-308 Lower Receiver Parts, Shop All Handgun Barrels & Muzzle Devices, Shop All Bipods / Monopods & Accessories. Since then they have steadily grown stronger, firmly establishing their reputation as a durable, reliable weapon. I found that a snubbie is a real challenge for meeven at just 7 yards. This change is easily accomplished with a recoil spring adapter. It sounds like the EFK spring system could also fix my malfunction and give the recoil reduction, BUT might not be strong enough when coupled with the piston/dual action function. I love my Glock 36 and am pleased with it in every aspect. Unless you're a police officer, you can't buy one! Let me know how it works for you. If youre whining about recoil, perhaps a .45 of any brand is not for you. While all the magazines and holsters will fit either gun, some of the internal parts are different so slides, barrels, and trigger parts arent all interchangeable. At the same time, the texture is not going to snag on gloves. It was far thicker than it needed to be as a single-stack. If I were to bite the bullet , and buy a Glock for carry purposes; I would probably cold carry it. The GLOCK 36 presents grip ergonomics of the next dimension. That is evident when looking straight at the muzzle, there is a bigger hole that you cannot miss. And the G36 has the characteristic GLOCK trigger pull thats frequently described as mushy. The owner never got Glock Knuckle for him. While completely and utterly late to the single-stack subcompact 9mm party, it still became one of their most popular pistols to date. Ive handled and shot one of his pistols and it feels great. Semper Fi! For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Probably due to the difference in for of the upper part of the grip and new texturing pattern. After Glock released the Gen 5 pistols - which had a suite of significant updates including new slides, frames, barrels and more - the Gen 4 models were switched to LE sales only. The G36 is the wrong answer. Im new to buying guns but with the times being the way they are, I fear for my family. They ended up with a what I can only describe as a bulky, thick chunk of steel and polymer that had all the ergonomic properties of a brick. I bought my Glock 36 in 2001(DTH 194). Basically no recoil. It is comfortable to shoot and its ugly. The rear pins dont matter a whole lot to us as shooters. . Because the release is bigger and further back makes it a shorter reach. I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I bought too much ammo. and walked away. The smaller trigger housing fits in the smaller Glock 19 4th Generation frame. The other reason is that I am sure there is a wear out point for a Glock and my Gen 3 has to be pushing it. It has a smaller frame with a shorter barrel and slide. It's a small gun, with its overall length at 6.97 inches, and the slide is nearly the same length as the entire gun at 6.77 inches. I also have the pearce +1 mag extensions so I can have a full 5 fingered grip on it. Ive shot almost 500 rounds through it so far without a single problem. The pins that hold the ejector, return spring and disconnect got changed a little so that the back straps can be accepted. Where can I find all the parts that are needed to build or put together a glock from scratch? Yes, mag changes are a PITA. Its a nice touch since most companies are now including only 1 or 2. Yes, I have switched to an M&P 9 over the last year and love it. So I expect the Gen 4 to get even better with use. Not fun. Buffalo Bore 255gr +P Outdoorsman875fps, 3.5 It made the pinky pinch and shot-to-shot grip slip disappear. Glock makes some minor revisions every so often to their basic design, leading to a new "generation" about every 10 years or so. Thanks for sharing your insights Ben! Wow, sounds like youve been in a lot of gun fights. I know the correct trigger housing pin for the Gen 4 19 without the backstrap is manufacturer # 1774 and it is also called the 21mm pin because it is 21mm long also known as the Glock 36 pin. Ben, Nice Article! Glock pistols of this generation added the finger grooves - some love 'em, some hate 'em - and the Universal Glock Rail to the dust cover of the frame. But what I really want is a 48 style in 45acp. The next non-interchangeable upgrade is the Glock 19 Gen 4 magazine release button. Share Compare Wishlist Warning WARNING ADVERTENCIA Technical Data Caliber .45 Auto They have everything but actual Glock frames. There a lot of spring kits and trigger kits on the market. Given proper care and maintenance, either Generation of Glock will serve you well. That's a price difference that is also cost saving. I took the trigger down to 2.5 lbs. This allows for shooters with a variety of hand sizes to comfortably hold and fire their Glock 19 Gen 4. I also like my Glock 26 which I bought in 1996. During high school I volunteered at my local PD where I learned more about handguns. The guy who wrote this article really did a dis-service to a fine handgun. Initially unnoticed, the Glock platform created an entirely new class of handgun that many have grown to love. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. One of the ones Ive admired is Dale Honeycutt near Houston. Yes its uglyits a Glock, Get Pearce grip extension to add +1 capacity, Aftermarket items are the key. Customize This * * * * * Shootability? I suspect that Europeans failed to grasp the .45 bore because they are still largely essentially serfs living under the will of their governments and as a result gravitated towards smaller, weaker rounds designed for deterrence and not self-defense. Had a G30S. Stumbled across this old G36 review just a day after pulling out one of my two old G36s from the safe and heading to the range with it. While the first Gen Glocks weren't broken per se, there were improvements to be made. I spoke to a Glock rep about this at SHOT. Let me follow up on my last post regarding the Glock 36 being small the wife called me up and wanted me to join her and her girl friends out and about. New, that is. In knowing which generation of Glock you have you can narrow down when it was made or at least when Glock started making them. I just bought and shot the Glock 36 and I was really impressed with how accurate it is given size and caliber. I was spoiled for too many years with great 1911 triggers. It will be easier to operate and hold. In this profile, there is no difference between Glock 19 Gen 3 and Gen 4. I replied, I dont know about you, but Ive never been to a gunfight where I felt like I brought too much ammo. and walked away. While longitudinally smaller, the addition of the interchangeable backstraps for the grips create a weapon that ergonomically fits a larger range of shooters hand sizes. This isn't a jab at anyone in particular. Feudalism has never fully left the spirit of many European states and the most common guns there are developed for use by governments, not individuals. The G36 I used for this review came equipped from the factory with Trijicon night sights. This time, Glock Gen 4 pistols use a flat-cone-like type of checkering which provides similar levels of grip traction while being more comfortable to grab on to and easier on the hands when. The one really odd thing I found was the thinner frame. Both barrels measure 4.48 in. Its far bulkier than it needs to be and isnt kind on the eyes. I am really enjoying my Glock 48 (currently sporting a 43 threaded slide). The different back straps should only matter if the Gen 3 doesnt fit you hand. Comparing them, the gen 3 SF frame seems a bit fatter left-to-right, almost as if the handle is more oval. You'll have to get out and handle both. On top of that, there have been changes to the line between full generations, for instance the glock 26 is available in a generation 2.5. The Gen 3 is clunky and heavy, recoiling with more force than modern Glock shooters are accustomed to. Most people say the Gen 4 feels better in the hand. If you have very small hands youll definitely like the Gen 4 better. We dont belittle people and their thoughts here. The Glock Gen-5 version is better for those who are more comfortable with a simple, bare-to-the-bone trigger. By changing the overall size of the grip you change the length of pull of the trigger. The flattened pancake look of the gun and the off-putting differences in surface texture wont turn any heads. Its going to come down to personal choice and what you can find. I carry it daily. No Im not a glock fan boy my EDC is a Sig 365 XL, The Glock 19 Gen 4 upgrades are subtle, yet leap out at the same time. The accuracy is typical of glock (Its good) As accurate as any of my other Glock pistols.
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